Discussion:
[Mac OS 10.9.4, John the Ripper Pro] cannot find after install
Eric Allione
2014-09-13 16:45:01 UTC
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Hello,

I just purchased John the Ripper Pro along with the word list. After
clicking the the DMG file and going through the motions, it said it was
finished installing. However I cannot find any trace of this program on my
computer. I tried reinstalling it and again it said it was finished
installing, but it's no where to be found on the search or the application
list.

I did not add the word pack (I am not sure how yet). Are there supposed to
be some commands that work in the terminal now that I installed that DMG
file?

I'm a little concerned about what I did to this new Mac server, aside from
whether I wasted $100 on something that doesn't work. But what worries me
the most is that my Mac insists that something was installed but yet I
can't find it.

Please forgive my ignorance as I have always been a Windows PC tech and
finally crossed over into the Mac world a few days ago. Thank you for any
help!

- Eric
Dhiru Kholia
2014-09-13 17:22:51 UTC
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Post by Eric Allione
I just purchased John the Ripper Pro along with the word list. After
clicking the the DMG file and going through the motions, it said it
was finished installing. However I cannot find any trace of this
program on my computer. I tried reinstalling it and again it said it
was finished installing, but it's no where to be found on the search
or the application list.
I did not add the word pack (I am not sure how yet). Are there
supposed to be some commands that work in the terminal now that I
installed that DMG file?
Hej Eric,

The following link documents how to crack Apple DMG files.

https://github.com/magnumripper/JohnTheRipper/blob/bleeding-jumbo/doc/README.Apple_DMG

Building JtR can be complex (if you aren't familiar with the terminal).
So, I have published some semi-newish OS X builds on the following URL,

https://github.com/kholia/JohnTheRipper/tree/OSX
Post by Eric Allione
I'm a little concerned about what I did to this new Mac server, aside
from whether I wasted $100 on something that doesn't work. But what
worries me the most is that my Mac insists that something was
installed but yet I can't find it.
I am not sure if John the Ripper Pro version can crack DMG files (yet)
*but* at least the money gets you priority support (just kidding, we are
volunteers here) ;)

Good luck!

Dhiru
Nahuel Grisolía
2014-09-13 18:02:04 UTC
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Dhiru, he doesnt want to crack a dmg file.

He wants to know, after installing, where are the binaries and stuff.

Try in /Library, try if the binary john is somewhere inside a folder called
run...

Nahu.-
Post by Dhiru Kholia
Post by Eric Allione
I just purchased John the Ripper Pro along with the word list. After
clicking the the DMG file and going through the motions, it said it
was finished installing. However I cannot find any trace of this
program on my computer. I tried reinstalling it and again it said it
was finished installing, but it's no where to be found on the search
or the application list.
I did not add the word pack (I am not sure how yet). Are there
supposed to be some commands that work in the terminal now that I
installed that DMG file?
Hej Eric,
The following link documents how to crack Apple DMG files.
https://github.com/magnumripper/JohnTheRipper/blob/bleeding-jumbo/doc/README.Apple_DMG
Building JtR can be complex (if you aren't familiar with the terminal).
So, I have published some semi-newish OS X builds on the following URL,
https://github.com/kholia/JohnTheRipper/tree/OSX
Post by Eric Allione
I'm a little concerned about what I did to this new Mac server, aside
from whether I wasted $100 on something that doesn't work. But what
worries me the most is that my Mac insists that something was
installed but yet I can't find it.
I am not sure if John the Ripper Pro version can crack DMG files (yet)
*but* at least the money gets you priority support (just kidding, we are
volunteers here) ;)
Good luck!
Dhiru
RB
2014-09-13 18:05:30 UTC
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Post by Dhiru Kholia
The following link documents how to crack Apple DMG files.
I don't believe he was trying to crack a DMG file, rather he had
downloaded the Pro DMG.

Eric, John The Ripper is generally a command-line tool, you won't see
a GUI app. Open Terminal.app and run "john" and see if you get a
usage message.
Dhiru Kholia
2014-09-13 18:09:18 UTC
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Post by RB
Post by Dhiru Kholia
The following link documents how to crack Apple DMG files.
I don't believe he was trying to crack a DMG file, rather he had
downloaded the Pro DMG.
My bad, I need to read emails with more attention ;)

Thanks,
Dhiru
Solar Designer
2014-09-14 13:35:53 UTC
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Hi Eric,

I've refunded your purchase based on your off-list request, but to
Post by Eric Allione
I just purchased John the Ripper Pro along with the word list. After
clicking the the DMG file and going through the motions, it said it was
finished installing. However I cannot find any trace of this program on my
computer. I tried reinstalling it and again it said it was finished
installing, but it's no where to be found on the search or the application
list.
It installs under your user account's home directory. This is an
installation mode Mac OS X supports starting with version 10.5. We find
such user-local installation more appropriate for this specialized
application, as opposed to "polluting" the entire system.

In fact, the documentation says:

---
To install the application, double-click the installer application and
follow the prompts. John the Ripper is installed in a directory called
John_Pro in your home directory.

To run the application, double-click on the Run_John AppleScript. This
will open a terminal window with the correct settings, allowing you to
type "john" to run the program and see a list of the command-line
options. Make sure to read the documentation distributed with this
program. The documentation is found in the "doc" subdirectory.
---
Post by Eric Allione
I did not add the word pack (I am not sure how yet). Are there supposed to
be some commands that work in the terminal now that I installed that DMG
file?
John the Ripper Pro already includes and is pre-configured to use a
wordlist that is good enough for you to get started. The per-language
wordlists are in case you need to run a more focused attack, e.g.
enabling you to test more variations of words from a certain language in
the same amount of time than you would be able to with the generic
wordlist. There are other uses of this sort as well.

To use a specific wordlist, you'd use either the --wordlist option (and
provide the wordlist filename as parameter) or edit the "Wordlist = "
line in john.conf. This is described in the included documentation.
Post by Eric Allione
I'm a little concerned about what I did to this new Mac server,
No changes to the system have been made. This is one of the reasons why
we prefer those user-local installs.
Post by Eric Allione
aside from whether I wasted $100
You did not: we offer unconditional refunds.

Best regards,

Alexander
Nahuel Grisolia
2014-09-15 12:12:16 UTC
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You rock Solar!
Post by Solar Designer
Hi Eric,
I've refunded your purchase based on your off-list request, but to
Post by Eric Allione
I just purchased John the Ripper Pro along with the word list. After
clicking the the DMG file and going through the motions, it said it was
finished installing. However I cannot find any trace of this program on my
computer. I tried reinstalling it and again it said it was finished
installing, but it's no where to be found on the search or the application
list.
It installs under your user account's home directory. This is an
installation mode Mac OS X supports starting with version 10.5. We find
such user-local installation more appropriate for this specialized
application, as opposed to "polluting" the entire system.
---
To install the application, double-click the installer application and
follow the prompts. John the Ripper is installed in a directory called
John_Pro in your home directory.
To run the application, double-click on the Run_John AppleScript. This
will open a terminal window with the correct settings, allowing you to
type "john" to run the program and see a list of the command-line
options. Make sure to read the documentation distributed with this
program. The documentation is found in the "doc" subdirectory.
---
Post by Eric Allione
I did not add the word pack (I am not sure how yet). Are there supposed to
be some commands that work in the terminal now that I installed that DMG
file?
John the Ripper Pro already includes and is pre-configured to use a
wordlist that is good enough for you to get started. The per-language
wordlists are in case you need to run a more focused attack, e.g.
enabling you to test more variations of words from a certain language in
the same amount of time than you would be able to with the generic
wordlist. There are other uses of this sort as well.
To use a specific wordlist, you'd use either the --wordlist option (and
provide the wordlist filename as parameter) or edit the "Wordlist = "
line in john.conf. This is described in the included documentation.
Post by Eric Allione
I'm a little concerned about what I did to this new Mac server,
No changes to the system have been made. This is one of the reasons why
we prefer those user-local installs.
Post by Eric Allione
aside from whether I wasted $100
You did not: we offer unconditional refunds.
Best regards,
Alexander
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